>> i do, martha. i think the international olympic committee could basically say to the russian government, you must change this law, and here's why. it is a great gift, and it's a great bargaining chip to have the olympic games given to a country. russia, putin wanted these olympics more than anything. he himself lobbied for the olympic games several years ago, so just as the opportunity was missed in china with dissidents being thrown in jail because the olympics were held in china, the ioc missed an opportunity there to demand human rights change for generations. the same thing -- >> it's really quite extraordinary what's going on in russia. even if they say they won't arrest anybody, you have people attacking pro-gay rallies, all sorts of things going on. >> exactly, and the olympics -- at the end of the day, martha, the olympics is about inclusion. this is all about having athletes of the world show up and come, obviously there's commercialism, et cetera, but the bottom line is, this is a chance